Peter George
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Hi Paul,
The update was in the 2022 Imerologion. I will look for a copy of it.
A link to “Crown of the Year” is here. Unfortunately, it does not exist in English.
That’s a really good question and it would require a good deal of mathematics. The date of Pascha sets the cycle of modes, so it would need to be based on that. As it stands currently, Pascha can fall between April 4th and May 8th (on the New Calendar), so that certainly gives us a lot of variants. Of course, as Pascha changes dates from year to year, the beginning of the Triodion is also variable, so it would be very difficult for one year to be exactly the same as another. I can outsource this question to my more math-minded typikon friends and see if they can give us an answer!
Yes, absolutely! It’s easy to focus on the differences between Eastern Orthodox liturgical practices, but they are much more similar than they are different!
There was an attempt made to translate the Typikon of St. Sabbas into English, but that project was abandoned. Typika are notoriously difficult to translate and part of the issue with St. Sabbas is that there are portions of it that are very difficult to read due to copying errors that have become permanent. It would require a real academic effort to create a critical text. Certainly worth doing, but unfortunately no one has gotten to it yet.
I would love to see you and Paul in 101! It should be offered next semester.
Hi Paul, Typikon 100 is brand-new this year, which is why it’s probably not in the catalogue.
Typikon 101 basically assumes that you are familiar with the fixed parts of Vespers, Matins and the Liturgy. We were finding that some people didn’t have that down, so we created Typikon 100 as a way to focus on the structures of the services, before we delved too deep into all the variations of the moveable portions.
Don’t worry, you are totally in the right place for this – I am an extreme Typikon nerd. Also, not to make a plug for Typikon 101, but we will go in depth about the Typikon of St. Sabbas (usually abbreviated TAS) and how it affected our current Typikon in that course (including the history of how we got the Typikon of St. Sabbas in the first place).
Essentially, you are correct. Every modern Typikon has as the TAS source and the challenge is how to condense it for parish usage. The Russians and Greeks/Antiochians basically have different ways of doing this. The Russian solution is essentially to shorten to reduce the amount of psalm verses (e.g. singing 10 certain verses of the polyeleos) whereas the Greek solution is to read the psalms or eliminate them entirely (e.g. the polyeleos is almost never done in a Greek parish). This is partly because the moveable hymns take much longer in a Greek parish due to the style of chant.
Hi Marie,
Start with S1. Thank you for pointing out an error in the doc! “Let thine ears be attentive” on there twice is most certainly an error. I have corrected it. We will go over everything in class, so don’t stress!
Peter
Hi Paul,
When there are two saint’s dismissal hymns, the tone of the last one governs the Theotokion. So, in this case, the tone of the theotokion will be in the tone of St. Nestor’s dismissal hymn.
Hi Marie! It’s in the lesson for this week, but the link might have been a bit hard to find. I’ll post it here so it’s easier to access.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tIlswhR48voEG_tS7SiaboyKRcsQASTBN9tdPt8bHts/edit?usp=sharing
I have uploaded a folder into the Document Hub that include liturgical books in the Greek language for those who are interested.
Hi Natalie! Yes, what Paul shared is really useful and I use it all the time. There are also a ton of Greek liturgical books available as pdfs on Google Books. I’ll try to compile a list so you can access those if you’d like.
Hi Ephraim,
I unfortunately had to cancel Office Hours due to a conflict. I did email, but it was late. My apologies!
Peter
