Sarah Helena
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Am I correct in remembering something about the following in Orthros:
If there is a dismissal hymn for a celebrated Saint (rather than repeating the Resurrectional Apolytikion), and therefore the Theotokion is in the mode of the Saint’s hymn rather than the mode of the week, the GOA puts the 1st Theotokion of the mode of the week somewhere else instead? I think it replaces the Theotokion at the 1st Poetic Kathisma?
Any guidance or correction on that would be appreciated!
Replying to myself to apologize for mistaking the Saint’s name. St. Theodotus it should be both times in my original post.
The usual time but any evening other than a Wednesday would be great because then I could actually attend! I’m on the west coast, and our Wednesday Vespers conflicts with the usual office hours. If the re-scheduled one happened to be on a non-Wednesday, it would be a nice bonus for me!
Alternatively, earlier in the day (afternoon Pacific time) on a M/W/F would likely work.
This may be obvious, but I want to make sure I’m not missing something! For Great Vespers, if the Saint of the Day has a Doxasticon, then we chant the Resurrectional Stichera to 6 and the Prosomia for the Saint to 4. If the Saint has a Doxasticon but only 3 Stichera, then I assume we would go back to 7 Resurrectional? Thank you!
What a thoughtfully reasoned response. Thank you for that. My own initial thought was much simpler, but I will post it anyway.
While the typikon has changed historically, I wince at the idea of change now. The changes that we learned about in the lesson were at least in some part made in order to reach for a deeper level of worship (the love of hesychasm stood out for me), but my instinct is that change now would be to accommodate the modern lifestyle, making things easier and more “accessible”. Parishes already make certain modifications as needed (e.g., shortening the length of a service), but if an easier version becomes codified, then that’s the new baseline, which will then be seen as too hard and needing modification. If the speed limit is 60 but everyone goes 70, raising the speed limit to 70 just means that everyone will go 80. We can’t change doctrine without an Ecumenical Council, so let’s hold the line on the Typikon 🙂
Again, this is all based on my preconceived notion that the reason for changing the Typikon would be to make things easier for our modern life. I am now going to think about the other possible reasons that Zornitsa brought up, which are intriguing and many-faceted.
My name is Sarah, and I chant at Holy Apostles Greek Orthodox Church in Seattle, Washington. We use the Digital Chant Stand for most of our services. Some others, such as Holy Week, are chanted from printed service books. Still, I would like to learn how the services are put together, primarily so that I have a better understanding of what we are chanting and why – or in case the internet goes down! Unfortunately, being on the west coast, we often have Vespers on Wednesday evening at the same time as the office hours Zoom, so I won’t be able to attend in person very often.
