Questions on Lesson 3
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January 30, 2024 at 1:39 pm #43761
Hi Peter,
I’ve attended parishes in the Antiochian Archdiocese that celebrate “daily vespers” during the week. Is this the same as a “Small Vespers”?
It certainly had a simpler feel to it than Great Vespers (“O Gladsome Light” was read rather than sung, candles were only lit in front of Christ’s icon and the Theotokos on the Iconostasis, and so on).
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January 30, 2024 at 9:25 pm #43768
Also, is there a link to the powerpoint used in this week’s video lecture? I can’t seem to locate it. Thanks!
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January 31, 2024 at 2:29 pm #43775
Also, is there a link to the powerpoint used in this week’s video lecture? I can’t seem to locate it. Thanks!
Let me see if I can post it. Sorry about that.
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January 31, 2024 at 1:39 pm #43771
Hi Alexandra,
A daily vespers is just simply a vespers service that falls on a weekday without a feasted saint. They are certainly more simple and “O Gladsome Light” being read is definitely a part of that. There is no entrance and “Vouchsafe” is read immediately following “O Gladsome Light.” Generally, a daily vespers is chanted more quickly.
However a daily vespers is different than a Small Vespers. A Small Vespers is the vespers service specifically served before a Vigil and can only be celebrated in conjunction with Great Vespers.
This basically solves a scheduling problem in monasteries. Vespers is usually done at 3pm, followed by dinner, then Compline. But, what if there is a Vigil? The Vigil is usually served with Compline, which would mean the 3pm time slot would be empty. This is filled by the “Small Vespers.” After the “Small Vespers” the monastics will eat, then go into Compline and begin the vigil proper.
Hope this makes sense!
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January 31, 2024 at 2:16 pm #43773
Hi Peter,
This definitely makes sense. I also appreciate your explanation of how it fits into the schedule of the monasteries (having attended Vigil services at monasteries before, this helps me to understand how everything fits together and sounds familiar). Thank you! -
February 2, 2024 at 1:12 am #43799
Apologies if I am simply not seeing them, but where did you post the slides for Week 3?
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February 4, 2024 at 5:03 pm #43853
This may be obvious, but I want to make sure I’m not missing something! For Great Vespers, if the Saint of the Day has a Doxasticon, then we chant the Resurrectional Stichera to 6 and the Prosomia for the Saint to 4. If the Saint has a Doxasticon but only 3 Stichera, then I assume we would go back to 7 Resurrectional? Thank you!
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February 4, 2024 at 5:55 pm #43856
Disregard this message.
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February 4, 2024 at 6:03 pm #43857
I have a dilemma with lesson 3 assignments. I don’t have any of the books needed to do this assignment & have no idea what the HTM service book is. Any suggestions?
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February 4, 2024 at 7:26 pm #43859
Hi Helen, I don’t have the physical books either, but I used the links to the electronic versions that Peter had posted in Unit 1, under Church Books and Document Hub. I hope this helps!
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February 4, 2024 at 8:15 pm #43860
Thanks Zornitsa! I’m a bit behind in my lessons & trying to do this all at once – not working out very well I must say! LOL.
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February 4, 2024 at 8:17 pm #43861
Peter,
Unfortunately, I’m going to be late turning in this assignment. I sincerely apologize as I’m usually on top of my lessons. I’ll try to complete this by tomorrow, Feb. 5th.
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February 7, 2024 at 9:55 am #43884
Peter, I’m sorry but I’m SO LOST with this lesson. I really don’t know how to complete the assignment & I’m already 4 days late with it. I’ll have to meet with you tonight for assistance. I’ll continue to try (I even took a day off of work to figure this out).
Helen
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